Senate candidates Boxer, Fiorina spar in debate
Republican Senate candidate Carly Fiorina and Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer sought to draw contrasts between each other during a lively one-hour debate at St. Mary’s College in Moraga Wednesday evening, with the candidates sparring on the economy, global warming, social issues, and national security.
Fiorina painted her opponent as ineffective and excessively partisan in nearly three decades in Washington, while Boxer attacked Fiorina’s record as CEO of tech giant Hewlett-Packard.
Candidates disagree on how to fix economy
“Recovery summer has become the summer of despair in California,” Fiorina said, saying the stimulus bill has “manifestly failed” at bringing the high unemployment rate down.
Boxer, however, defended the stimulus, pointing to stimulus-funded projects such as the Doyle Drive retrofit in San Francisco, which she said had created 2,000 jobs.
Boxer touted Democratic-backed legislation, such as a $26 billion measure to help states retain teachers and a package of loans and tax breaks for small businesses currently pending in the Senate, and blasted Fiorina for opposing those measures.
“What’s more important than our children?” Boxer asked, pointing to the more than 16,000 teachers who have received pink slips in California.
But Fiorina called the school aid measure “political football with taxpayers’ money,” saying that its impact was unlikely to be felt until 2012.
Fiorina argued that high taxes and excessive regulation were “strangling” business, and promoted tax credits for businesses to create jobs and an extension of the Bush tax cuts, which are set to expire at the end of this year. “We have to fight for every job,” Fiorina said, saying that China and other countries are creating economic growth by giving companies “huge tax credits” and reducing red tape.
Fiorina refuses to take a stand on measure to suspend global warming legislation
Asked about global warming, Fiorina said her goal was “a national and comprehensive energy bill.” She said cap-and-trade legislation written by Boxer and Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) was on “completely the wrong track,” saying that it “punish[es] excessively” industries such as farming and manufacturing. She argued that the focus of energy legislation should be on funding clean energy research and “taking advantage” of every energy source available — including nuclear power.
Fiorina criticized AB 32, California’s law limiting greenhouse gas emissions, calling it “in the short term, a job killer” and saying a “global” solution to global warming was needed.
But when pressed by debate moderator Randy Shandobil of KTVU television on whether she would support Proposition 23, a measure on the November ballot which would suspend AB 32 until the state’s unemployment rate drops to 5.5%, she said she had no position on the measure.
Boxer pounced on Fiorina’s indecision. “If you can’t take a stand on Prop 23, I don’t know what you’ll take a stand on,” she told Fiorina. Boxer strongly backed AB 32, saying California risked giving away the technological lead on clean energy to other countries if the measure were to be overturned.
Boxer, Fiorina attack each others’ records
Boxer attacked Fiorina’s tenure as CEO of Hewlett-Packard, saying that she “laid off 30,000 employees and shipped jobs to China” while making more than $100 million. “I don’t think we need those Wall Street values right now,” she said.
But Fiorina defended her record as HP CEO, saying that business leaders “sometimes have to make the agonizing choice to lose some jobs to save more.” She said that she doubled the size of the company during the “worst technology recession” in 25 years.
Fiorina said Boxer’s record “is long and talk and very short on achievement,” and called her one of the “most bitterly partisan members” of the Senate. She claimed Boxer had written only four bills in three terms as a senator, and said that the Democratic leadership had taken global warming legislation out of her control and given it to Kerry because they felt she was too partisan to manage the bill.
Boxer, however, countered by saying that “a thousand Boxer provisions” had become law and that she had co-sponsored more than “500 Republican bills.”
Candidates questioned on gay rights, guns, and abortion
Fiorina criticized the recent ruling by a federal judge overturning Proposition 8, California’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage. “The voters were quite clear,” she said. “For that decision to be overturned by a single judge perhaps seems not appropriate.”
Fiorina pointed out that she supports same-sex civil unions and the repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy prohibiting gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military, calling her positions “consistent” with those taken by President Obama and many other senators.
Boxer defended the ruling overturning Proposition 8. “We do have courts that check the legislature [...] that’s what our Constitution says,” she said. Boxer said that she thought that “people are coming around” to support same-sex marriage.
When asked directly whether she would choose to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision prohibiting the banning of abortion, Fiorina said she would, though she said she wasn’t “running” on the issue. Boxer said Fiorina’s stance would turn women into “criminals.”
Asked about a debate during the Republican primary in which she said she would support allowing those on the no-fly list to acquire guns, Fiorina said she stood by those remarks. “My sister-in-law was on the no-fly list,” Fiorina said, arguing that the list is poorly managed. “We should not be taking away constitutional rights from citizens.”
Fiorina also supported the lifting of the ban on assault weapons, calling the classification of weapons as assault weapons arbitrary. “Most of the time, criminals are breaking [existing gun control] laws” when acquiring weapons, she said, calling for enforcement of existing gun laws.
Boxer called Fiorina “out of step” with California voters on the issue.
Wednesday’s debate, sponsored by KTVU, the San Francisco Chronicle, and KQED, could be the only one of the campaign, though both candidates say they would like to have more debates. California voters go to the polls November 2.
Contact Steven Luo at sluo@californiabeat.org.

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The mêlée over illegal immigration has just begun and the Tea Party members, Conservatives and independents should be mindful of Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of Californians record. Boxer debated candidate Republican challenger Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett-Packard, for US Senate seat, confronting each other in the first of their debates this election season. Fiorina took the lead in in the political discussion that was informative, even when both contributors were argumentative. Voters must make the best assessment between the two very dissimilar candidates, from opposed ends of their political philosophy. Both opinionated over how to best construct a jobs program; about their records in the environment, business sector, public, foreign policy, the economy and internal government strife and even abortion. This first upfront in the face debate was barbed, in a performance of competing arguments with the candidates in an all-out attack on each other’s records.
The questions were balanced from voters, but discord remained as the smear tactics continued losing sight in some cases of the original questioning. In the offset it came to voter’s questions about immigration, which as now surfaced as a red-hot button issue commencing with the federal lawsuit against the state of Arizona. Even the sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa county is being dragged over the tiles for exerting his state authority to apprehend illegal aliens. Unless I missed it on C-SPAN there was no mention of Immigration Chief John Morton with ICE arresting only criminals and releasing thousands of illegal aliens back on the streets, in a De Facto Amnesty. Although Madam Fiorina supports the “Dream Act” it must be noted she does not agree with any AMNESTY. The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act would provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented students who came to the United States as minors and finished high school.
Boxer on the other hand believed in Comprehensive Immigration Reform, known by most prudent Americans as Amnesty. This would commence with a massive expenditure to taxpayers, through forced taxes to pay for Amnesty, with welfare programs not far behind. Like her counterpart Sen. Harry Reid, her stance on stopping illegal immigration is in one word” Un-American” She is obviously for an open border because her record shows that. Voted–YES–on continuing federal funds for declared “Sanctuary Cities”. Bill Table S.Amdt.4309 to S.Con.Res ; on Mar 13, 2008. Voted–YES–on comprehensive Immigration reform Bill S.1639 ; on Jun 28, 2007. Voted–NO–on declaring English as the official language of the US Government Bill. S.Amdt.1151 to S.1348 ; on Jun 6, 2007. Voted–YES–on eliminating the “Y” nonimmigrant guest worker visa Bill S.Amdt.1153 on S.1348 ; on May 22, 2007. Voted–YES–on building a fence along the Mexican border. Bill H R 6061 ; on Sep 29, 2006. The 2006 Secure Fence Bill was a fallacy, as it wasn’t built as originally intended and still remains uncompleted. Voted–YES–on establishing a Guest Worker program. Bill S. 2611 ; on May 25, 2006.
VOTED–YES–ON ALLOWING ILLEGAL ALIENS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR SOCIAL SECURITY Bill S.Amdt.3985 to S.2611 ; on May 18, 2006. Voted—NO– on allowing more foreign workers into the US for agricultural work. Bill S.2260 ; on Jul 23, 1998. Voted–YES–on a visa for skilled workers. Bill S. 1723 ; on May 18, 1998. Voted–NO–on limiting welfare for immigrants. Bill S.947 ; on Jun 24, 1997. SPONSORED PROVIDING FUNDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS. Funding (S.AMDT.4072 to S.2611) 06-SP4072 on May 18, 2006. According to NumbersUSA website Sen. Boxer has a “D” in Immigration enforcement and her stance categorizes her, with an open border mentality. The majority of Democrats have already breeched their oath of Allegiance to the American people, by catering more to the health care, education and other benefits to the illegal alien invasion force, while in many states the underprivileged citizens are either turned away or left to their own devices—when it comes to public assistance.
California is a—SANCTUARY CITY—and state, supported by lawmakers such as Senator Boxer. California has become a harbor for millions of illegal aliens that are benefiting from a damaged federal, state and county entitlement system. In part it has been compromised by hundreds of thousands of instant-citizenship for babies of illegal aliens, tapping into all manner of cash payments and so much more, leaving the state’s welfare system dragging its tail. Overall billions of your tax dollars are being swallowed up by people who shouldn’t be here–nationwide. We have a good chance now to remove all pro-amnesty, pro-illegal immigrant politicians and all elected officials and elect new unblemished legislators. Warn your Senator or Congressman by calling the Washington switchboard 202-224-3121. If you are not in-line with the peoples wishes, you will be out in November.
Making room in the jobless line isn’t just for removing incumbents, Anti Liberal, Anti-Democrat or most issues. Even Medical Care reform is not the major issue. Its about the failure of both parties to listen to the American people. One major issue is illegal immigration and taxpayers have the IRS extorting money from them, to pay for every conceivable entitlement that Americans cannot get. The lies about the border fence and not following the design of the 2006 Secure Fence act .It’s about incomprehensible billions of dollars that we are spending on corporate welfare–as the pay nothing to illegal workers other then wages; not the education of their children, health care, unemployment benefits or undisclosed social programs. We the taxpayers are the dumb fools who pay for it all? Millions are slipping past the border and it will never, ever stop, until we have politicians who are working for the American people. They are taking low skilled and manual labor jobs and lowering wages to an estimate of $200 billion a year.